Upload to the Garbo PC Software Archive?

Post by Harry Potter
Hi! How do I upload to the Garbo PC Software Archive?
I want to upload my Template Creator for DOS program
and am working on another program to upload.

Nobody wants 1 user software on Garbo. Show some users first.

Robert Prins

2019-11-18 19:39:09 UTC

Post by Harry Potter
Hi! How do I upload to the Garbo PC Software Archive? I want to upload my
Template Creator for DOS program and am working on another program to
upload.

You are obviously totally clueless. Garbo died, many, many years ago!

Robert

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robert(a)prino(d)org
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Some REXX code for use on z/OS - https://prino.neocities.org/zOS/zOS-Tools.html

T. Ment

2019-11-18 17:51:09 UTC

Post by Robert Prins

Post by Harry Potter
Hi! How do I upload to the Garbo PC Software Archive? I want to upload my
Template Creator for DOS program and am working on another program to
upload.

You are obviously totally clueless. Garbo died, many, many years ago!

Don't be a jerk. You're no mental health expert. Atheist I suspect.

Herbert Kleebauer

2019-11-18 21:13:15 UTC

Post by Robert Prins

Post by Harry Potter
Hi! How do I upload to the Garbo PC Software Archive? I want to upload my
Template Creator for DOS program and am working on another program to
upload.

You are obviously totally clueless. Garbo died, many, many years ago!

Don't be a jerk. You're no mental health expert. Atheist I suspect.

Garbo was maintained by Prof. Timo Salmi, his last post in alt.msdos.batch.nt
was more than a year ago, but Garbo died already 2012:

|| An important note: The workstation hosting Garbo at the
|| University of Vaasa, Finland, has broken down in 2012. This
|| is final. The university's ICT Management informs that the
|| broken workstation will not be replaced. Thus the Garbo
|| library has ceased to exist. The relevant
|| copyrights, however, are not released.

T. Ment

2019-11-18 21:28:02 UTC

Post by Herbert Kleebauer
Garbo was maintained by Prof. Timo Salmi, his last post in alt.msdos.batch.nt

Garbo mirror still available:

https://archive.org/download/2012.11.24.ftp-garbo-mirror

Sjouke Burry

2019-11-18 22:02:30 UTC

Post by Herbert Kleebauer
Garbo was maintained by Prof. Timo Salmi, his last post in alt.msdos.batch.nt

https://archive.org/download/2012.11.24.ftp-garbo-mirror

Yep. downloaded the dos part a few years ago.

Herbert Kleebauer

2019-11-18 22:31:59 UTC

Post by Herbert Kleebauer
Garbo was maintained by Prof. Timo Salmi, his last post in alt.msdos.batch.nt

https://archive.org/download/2012.11.24.ftp-garbo-mirror

The subject of this thread is: "Upload to the Garbo PC Software Archive".
You can't upload anything to an archive or mirror of Garbo.
Garbo is dead, a mirror is just a snapshot of Garbo at a
time where Garbo still was alive.

T. Ment

2019-11-18 23:16:45 UTC

Post by Herbert Kleebauer

Post by T. Ment
https://archive.org/download/2012.11.24.ftp-garbo-mirror

This thread is whatever the OP wants to talk about. Maybe you don't know
Harry. He wrote some code and wants people to use it. He doesn't care
how that happens. Garbo was just one of his ideas. No need for anyone to
go ballistic or be rude to Harry.

Frank Slootweg

2019-11-19 13:52:03 UTC

Post by Herbert Kleebauer
Garbo was maintained by Prof. Timo Salmi, his last post in
alt.msdos.batch.nt was more than a year ago, but Garbo died already

https://archive.org/download/2012.11.24.ftp-garbo-mirror

Thanks for that!

If/when I'm really bored, I might have a look if my old - rather
useless - stuff from the comp.binaries.ibm.pc newsgroup is still on
there! :-)

Who remembers the 'CBIP Starter's Kit', which had an *executable-text*
version of a minimal uudecode program, which could be used to uudecode
the full uudecode program!? :-)

Such fond memories!

T. Ment

2019-11-19 16:37:08 UTC

Post by T. Ment
https://archive.org/download/2012.11.24.ftp-garbo-mirror

Thanks for that!

It unzipped for me. Expanded takes another 1 GB or so. The UPLOAD.TXT
file in /pub/pc/garbo/pc has the answer to Harry's question. Just need
to roll back a few years.

How to submit to garbo.uwasa.fi MS-DOS archives Mon 28-Jul-2003
-----------------------------------------------

This file is ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/UPLOAD.TXT

+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
| First please check http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbinfo/garb1996.html |
| "What is Garbo's current incoming uploads open/closed status?" |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+

The X in the addresses throughout this file is a spamguard to be
deleted.

Q: I have made some programs myself (or written a scientific paper)
which I think might be of general interest. Or I have obtained this
fabulous program which I think would be of general interest. Or I
have a more recent version of this shareware, freeware or public
domain program than what you have on your archives. Would it be
possible to upload them to your FTP archives?

A1: A summary for experienced users. Check carefully before uploading!
- Quality software solicited.
- Please use /pc/UPTEXT.TXT for the compulsory announcement outline.
- Email your *MS-DOS* upload announcement to pc-***@uwasaX.fi
- MS-DOS uploads without _email_ to pc-***@uwasaX.fi will be deleted!
- Compulsory descriptive subject in your email STARTING with the file
name!
(Example: "gismo10.zip Global Integrated Simulation Model uploaded")
- Use only .zip (2.04G or Info-ZIP's compatible) (also for bare text
files).
- Don't forget to transfer your .zip file in the binary mode.
- Use version numbers and unique, non-reserved file names (check our
index).
- If made with Unix zip, still use MS-DOS eolns for embedded text
files.
- If yours, include documentation in package, or make self-documenting.
- FTP MS-DOS files to /pc/incoming (Windows files to
/windows/incoming).
- Your message will be used as such for announcing on the news.
- Your message's right margin no further than at column 72.
- Don't use tabs in writing to us.
- English only (goes both for the programs and your announcement).
- Emphasis on MS-DOS utilities, not all subject categories carried.
- Programs that stop working after a fixed date will not be accepted.
- If not yours, check that it is distributable, i.e. PD or shareware.
- Fully developed programs. No alpha or beta test program versions.
- Do not include vbrunxxx.dll files. They are available separately.
- If it is both an MS-DOS & Windows package, MS-DOS takes precedence.
- No special limitations on distributability (eg no CD-ROM) are
allowed.
- You have to disclose your full name. No anonymous or aka uploads.
- Please be patient. Our queues can be quite long.

Please be forewarned:
So much material is now being uploaded to Garbo by the gentle
users that we have had to set up an autokill program at Garbo. It
summarily weeds all non-zipped files from the /pc/incoming,
/windows/incoming and /win95/incoming directories.
You cannot upload the compulsory upload announcement by FTP. You
have to email it to pc-***@uwasaX.fi (or the other given email
aliases for other than MS-DOS files). For the format of the
compulsory upload announcement please see
ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/UPTEXT.TXT
We have to insist that the emailed upload announcement's subject
header starts with the file name. If it does not, we'll have to
discard. We have so many upload announcements that we cannot keep
track else.
(Example: "gismo10.zip Global Integrated Simulation Model uploaded")
Sorry to have to be this strict, but we no longer have any other
choice for practical reasons.

Computer Nerd Kev

2019-11-20 21:51:13 UTC

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Kerr-Mudd,John

2019-11-19 17:17:08 UTC

Post by Herbert Kleebauer
Garbo was maintained by Prof. Timo Salmi, his last post in
alt.msdos.batch.nt was more than a year ago, but Garbo died already

https://archive.org/download/2012.11.24.ftp-garbo-mirror

text*

Post by Frank Slootweg
version of a minimal uudecode program, which could be used to uudecode
the full uudecode program!? :-)
Such fond memories!

Not me; I reinvented that wheel.
Can you give me a pointer?

--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

Frank Slootweg

2019-11-19 18:12:59 UTC

Post by Herbert Kleebauer
Garbo was maintained by Prof. Timo Salmi, his last post in
alt.msdos.batch.nt was more than a year ago, but Garbo died already

https://archive.org/download/2012.11.24.ftp-garbo-mirror

text*

Post by Frank Slootweg
version of a minimal uudecode program, which could be used to uudecode
the full uudecode program!? :-)
Such fond memories!

Not me; I reinvented that wheel.
Can you give me a pointer?

Sorry, doesn't compute! Can I give you a pointer for *what*?

T. Ment

2019-11-19 18:20:39 UTC

Post by Frank Slootweg
Who remembers the 'CBIP Starter's Kit', which had an *executable-

text*

Post by Frank Slootweg
version of a minimal uudecode program, which could be used to uudecode
the full uudecode program!? :-)
Such fond memories!

Not me; I reinvented that wheel.
Can you give me a pointer?

Sorry, doesn't compute! Can I give you a pointer for *what*?

How to find "CBIP Starter's Kit" would be my guess.

Frank Slootweg

2019-11-19 19:31:55 UTC

Post by Frank Slootweg
Who remembers the 'CBIP Starter's Kit', which had an *executable-

text*

Post by Frank Slootweg
version of a minimal uudecode program, which could be used to uudecode
the full uudecode program!? :-)
Such fond memories!

Not me; I reinvented that wheel.
Can you give me a pointer?

Sorry, doesn't compute! Can I give you a pointer for *what*?

How to find "CBIP Starter's Kit" would be my guess.

The 'CBIP Starter's Kit' was regularly posted to the (moderated)
comp.binaries.ibm.pc newsgroup. AFAIR, the Garbo archive contained all
binaries/posts from comp.binaries.ibm.pc. If that's correct, the Garbo
mirror at <https://archive.org/download/2012.11.24.ftp-garbo-mirror>
should have copies of the 'CBIP Starter's Kit'.

[N.B. Most of this wisdom is brought to you from my file:
21/05/1996 13:16 1,241 uudecode.rec
where '.rec' means recording, i.e. a (posted) answer to a frequently
asked question.]

BTW, I tried a few Google searches to find the 'CBIP Starter's Kit',
but the best I found was a Russian document explaining how to create the
executable-text version of the minimal uudecode program! :-)

BTW2, finding DEBUG (.DBG) versions - i.e. also text - of uudecode is
much easier. AFAIR, DEBUG was standard in MS-DOS, so that was a good
alternative for the executable-text version.

Kerr-Mudd,John

2019-11-19 21:53:31 UTC

On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:31:55 GMT, Frank Slootweg

Post by Frank Slootweg
Who remembers the 'CBIP Starter's Kit', which had an
*executable-

text*

Post by Frank Slootweg
version of a minimal uudecode program, which could be used to
uudecode the full uudecode program!? :-)
Such fond memories!

Not me; I reinvented that wheel.
Can you give me a pointer?

Sorry, doesn't compute! Can I give you a pointer for *what*?

How to find "CBIP Starter's Kit" would be my guess.

The 'CBIP Starter's Kit' was regularly posted to the (moderated)
comp.binaries.ibm.pc newsgroup. AFAIR, the Garbo archive contained all
binaries/posts from comp.binaries.ibm.pc. If that's correct, the Garbo
mirror at <https://archive.org/download/2012.11.24.ftp-garbo-mirror>
should have copies of the 'CBIP Starter's Kit'.
21/05/1996 13:16 1,241 uudecode.rec
where '.rec' means recording, i.e. a (posted) answer to a frequently
asked question.]
BTW, I tried a few Google searches to find the 'CBIP Starter's Kit',
but the best I found was a Russian document explaining how to create
the executable-text version of the minimal uudecode program! :-)

That's why I was asking!

Post by Frank Slootweg
BTW2, finding DEBUG (.DBG) versions - i.e. also text - of uudecode is
much easier. AFAIR, DEBUG was standard in MS-DOS, so that was a good
alternative for the executable-text version.

OK; will try that.

I see
http://www.retroarchive.org/garbo/pc/decode/uudecode.dbg

but that's not text only.

OK looks like this is it:

http://www.retroarchive.org/cdrom/garbo_dos/doc-net/cbipstar.txt

--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

Kerr-Mudd,John

2019-11-20 17:07:27 UTC

On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 21:53:31 GMT, "Kerr-Mudd,John"

Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:31:55 GMT, Frank Slootweg

Post by Frank Slootweg
Who remembers the 'CBIP Starter's Kit', which had an
*executable-

text*

Post by Frank Slootweg
version of a minimal uudecode program, which could be used to
uudecode the full uudecode program!? :-)
Such fond memories!

Not me; I reinvented that wheel.
Can you give me a pointer?

Sorry, doesn't compute! Can I give you a pointer for *what*?

How to find "CBIP Starter's Kit" would be my guess.

The 'CBIP Starter's Kit' was regularly posted to the (moderated)
comp.binaries.ibm.pc newsgroup. AFAIR, the Garbo archive contained all
binaries/posts from comp.binaries.ibm.pc. If that's correct, the Garbo
mirror at <https://archive.org/download/2012.11.24.ftp-garbo-mirror>
should have copies of the 'CBIP Starter's Kit'.
21/05/1996 13:16 1,241 uudecode.rec
where '.rec' means recording, i.e. a (posted) answer to a frequently
asked question.]
BTW, I tried a few Google searches to find the 'CBIP Starter's Kit',
but the best I found was a Russian document explaining how to create
the executable-text version of the minimal uudecode program! :-)

That's why I was asking!

OK; will try that.
I see
http://www.retroarchive.org/garbo/pc/decode/uudecode.dbg
but that's not text only.
http://www.retroarchive.org/cdrom/garbo_dos/doc-net/cbipstar.txt

It's all a bit late now, but 2 years ago I made one a bit smaller:
(of course there's no help, no file save etc.)

ZRPhI0XRP5I1RPRR4hPPa+G71GaRX5OV1GG1GIG8+r6238w6t183t+=rYFRUZ22=
6602Zeeeeee0222====MJ=17======6eeeeGWSW///SoRKi8A9oAlpinMIP5lpad
EGinMIC3asbalputEEA2asA9a6N7E7E7lperHQD7sAroEGI8si5Sh8G7v7h8baba
w7a7OCh8ECP7G7EGG7sCjea69PUnSozeEdYoxbW7pL3P=
tAm6CAHNIcNIZWxsbyB3b3JsZCEk=

--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

Frank Slootweg

2019-11-20 19:10:12 UTC

Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 19:31:55 GMT, Frank Slootweg

Post by Frank Slootweg
Who remembers the 'CBIP Starter's Kit', which had an
*executable-

text*

Post by Frank Slootweg
version of a minimal uudecode program, which could be used to
uudecode the full uudecode program!? :-)
Such fond memories!

Not me; I reinvented that wheel.
Can you give me a pointer?

Sorry, doesn't compute! Can I give you a pointer for *what*?

How to find "CBIP Starter's Kit" would be my guess.

The 'CBIP Starter's Kit' was regularly posted to the (moderated)
comp.binaries.ibm.pc newsgroup. AFAIR, the Garbo archive contained all
binaries/posts from comp.binaries.ibm.pc. If that's correct, the Garbo
mirror at <https://archive.org/download/2012.11.24.ftp-garbo-mirror>
should have copies of the 'CBIP Starter's Kit'.
21/05/1996 13:16 1,241 uudecode.rec
where '.rec' means recording, i.e. a (posted) answer to a frequently
asked question.]
BTW, I tried a few Google searches to find the 'CBIP Starter's Kit',
but the best I found was a Russian document explaining how to create
the executable-text version of the minimal uudecode program! :-)

That's why I was asking!

Post by Frank Slootweg
BTW2, finding DEBUG (.DBG) versions - i.e. also text - of uudecode
is much easier. AFAIR, DEBUG was standard in MS-DOS, so that was a
good alternative for the executable-text version.

OK; will try that.
I see
http://www.retroarchive.org/garbo/pc/decode/uudecode.dbg
but that's not text only.

What I meant is that you could use the DEBUG (.dbg) version without
any additional software, because (AFAIR) DEBUG was standard in MS-DOS.

For other versions, such as the BASIC or C versions, you needed
additional software (BASIC interpreter, C compiler), which was not
standard in MS-DOS.

Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
http://www.retroarchive.org/cdrom/garbo_dos/doc-net/cbipstar.txt

Yes it is! Excellent find! Thanks!

Frank Slootweg

2019-11-19 13:34:25 UTC

Post by Herbert Kleebauer

Post by Robert Prins

Post by Harry Potter
Hi! How do I upload to the Garbo PC Software Archive? I want to
upload my Template Creator for DOS program and am working on
another program to upload.

You are obviously totally clueless. Garbo died, many, many years ago!

Don't be a jerk. You're no mental health expert. Atheist I suspect.

Garbo was maintained by Prof. Timo Salmi, his last post in alt.msdos.batch.nt
|| An important note: The workstation hosting Garbo at the
|| University of Vaasa, Finland, has broken down in 2012. This
|| is final. The university's ICT Management informs that the
|| broken workstation will not be replaced. Thus the Garbo
|| library has ceased to exist. The relevant
|| copyrights, however, are not released.

As to Garbo being 'dead', I thought/think this is kind of funny:

$ nslookup garbo.uwasa.fi
...
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: garbo.uwasa.fi
Address: 193.166.122.111

And when you enter 'garbo.uwasa.fi' in your webbrowser, it gets
redirected to

http://lipas.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbo.html

which responds with:

"Not Found
The requested URL /~ts/garbo.html was not found on this server."

Note the '~ts' and 'garbo' bits.

(But indeed a 'ping' to 'garbo.uwasa.fi' fails.)

Harry Potter

2019-11-19 12:29:04 UTC

T. Ment, I thank you for your support. You're right about me: I *really* want people to use my software and to get some exposure for it.

2019-11-19 16:41:42 UTC